willwin
06-26 11:24 AM
Here are some of my own personal thoughts:
How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?
Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.
There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.
Thanks for your time and response!
I thought that anyone close to the bill processes or people who work on those, should be able to predict; probably know by now if this (HR 5882) is going to happen or not. Pappu, I bet you must be in a better position than me to know (not to decide, ofcourse) about the plight of this bill. I would be surprised if you deny.
It wasn't Ron's mere prediction but based on his discussion with Charles Oppenheim.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456
This is what he understands from the conversation:
The strong impression that I took away from the converstaion, and this is only my interpretation, not what was said explicity, is the following:
The good news: the CIS backlog isn't as big as previously feared and their productivity is at an all time high;
More good news: China EB3 had almost caught up with worldwide EB3 and is likely to do so next year;
The bad news: when visa numbers become available again, India EB3 is going to be back where it was almost a year ago and it is not likely to move forward much in the next fiscal year.
More bad news: 40% to 45% of the entire backlog is Indian EB2 and EB3.
And barring, July 2007, EB3 I has moved only inches in the last 2-3 years and that's how much it would move in the next 2-3 years (and that's assuming a similar efficiency pattern that USCIS exhibited this year).
I am not trying to open a new can of worms here but reminding of an old one that is already existing - EB3 India. The most priviliged to remain in this god damn queue for as long as they wish and even beyond that.
How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?
Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.
There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.
Thanks for your time and response!
I thought that anyone close to the bill processes or people who work on those, should be able to predict; probably know by now if this (HR 5882) is going to happen or not. Pappu, I bet you must be in a better position than me to know (not to decide, ofcourse) about the plight of this bill. I would be surprised if you deny.
It wasn't Ron's mere prediction but based on his discussion with Charles Oppenheim.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456
This is what he understands from the conversation:
The strong impression that I took away from the converstaion, and this is only my interpretation, not what was said explicity, is the following:
The good news: the CIS backlog isn't as big as previously feared and their productivity is at an all time high;
More good news: China EB3 had almost caught up with worldwide EB3 and is likely to do so next year;
The bad news: when visa numbers become available again, India EB3 is going to be back where it was almost a year ago and it is not likely to move forward much in the next fiscal year.
More bad news: 40% to 45% of the entire backlog is Indian EB2 and EB3.
And barring, July 2007, EB3 I has moved only inches in the last 2-3 years and that's how much it would move in the next 2-3 years (and that's assuming a similar efficiency pattern that USCIS exhibited this year).
I am not trying to open a new can of worms here but reminding of an old one that is already existing - EB3 India. The most priviliged to remain in this god damn queue for as long as they wish and even beyond that.
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franklin
09-25 03:23 PM
Most countries do not have 9,800 EB applicants every year - in fact, most countries use well under 1,000.
The total number of applicants from other countries can be derived from roughly estimating number if H1 holders, adjusting for Indians and Chinese, and then dividing by 2 (50% of H1Bs never end up getting a green card), and then multiplying by 2 to adjust for derivatives. The bottom line - there are visas available in EB2 ROW and EB1 categories (which are current, meaning, undersubscribed), that are getting redistributed to EB3 ROW. This is why EB3 in total is using more than its share of 140,000 EBs. In fact, I believe the dates will be moving pretty fast on EB3 ROW, it will probably get all current in a couple of years.
Yes, I understand that most countries use nowhere near 9800 per year - its was a hypothetical answer in response to the OPs question.
I still think your estimation that EB3 ROW becoming current in 2 years is on the optimistic side - especially with no change in legislation.
The total number of applicants from other countries can be derived from roughly estimating number if H1 holders, adjusting for Indians and Chinese, and then dividing by 2 (50% of H1Bs never end up getting a green card), and then multiplying by 2 to adjust for derivatives. The bottom line - there are visas available in EB2 ROW and EB1 categories (which are current, meaning, undersubscribed), that are getting redistributed to EB3 ROW. This is why EB3 in total is using more than its share of 140,000 EBs. In fact, I believe the dates will be moving pretty fast on EB3 ROW, it will probably get all current in a couple of years.
Yes, I understand that most countries use nowhere near 9800 per year - its was a hypothetical answer in response to the OPs question.
I still think your estimation that EB3 ROW becoming current in 2 years is on the optimistic side - especially with no change in legislation.
Macaca
09-20 01:38 PM
Macaca
This is a very biggg thread.can you give me the page nos or a range from this page to this.. so It would be easy to read..! being in office I cant scroll thro so many pages !thanks
We have been tracking this thread for 2+ weeks with little (may be no) success.
You can start from page 285 which is rally day
This is a very biggg thread.can you give me the page nos or a range from this page to this.. so It would be easy to read..! being in office I cant scroll thro so many pages !thanks
We have been tracking this thread for 2+ weeks with little (may be no) success.
You can start from page 285 which is rally day
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needhelp!
02-12 11:57 AM
Thanks Kavita. I have found that my friends are glad to help if I ask them to collect 5-6 signatures.
Come on guys.. lets take this upon ourselves to make it happen!
Come on guys.. lets take this upon ourselves to make it happen!
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Legal
07-10 04:43 PM
Isn't this old news? has been around for a while???
eb3India
06-09 03:42 PM
Gautamagg (Gautam Aggrwal) is Columban.
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
I agree with you proposed pointbased system may not be good for us, but do you really think we have resources to change legislation,
what are we fighting for?, I think immigrationvoice is for people who are already here legally and waiting for green card, don't you think we need focus on our own agenda and stop chasing piggy back ride on CIR.
if we can influence to streamline current processes for faster approval of GCs, itz good enough for us.
I really don't think any lawmakers are going to take our advice when they draft these BS bills
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
I agree with you proposed pointbased system may not be good for us, but do you really think we have resources to change legislation,
what are we fighting for?, I think immigrationvoice is for people who are already here legally and waiting for green card, don't you think we need focus on our own agenda and stop chasing piggy back ride on CIR.
if we can influence to streamline current processes for faster approval of GCs, itz good enough for us.
I really don't think any lawmakers are going to take our advice when they draft these BS bills
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amitga
10-04 10:30 PM
I think for first meeting 10-12 are enough. Let us meet and decide upon the strategy to have more people. I would prefer not to have lot of people in the first meeting.
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04-10 03:27 PM
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05-17 12:10 PM
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ramboom1
03-17 08:51 AM
H4 - must be allowed to work. American economy does not differenciate between an American and a legal alien. We all pay the same rent, same tax, same price for car. When our H4 spouses cannot work, we have to totally depend on one salary. In case of emergencies we hit rock bottom economically. Quite obviously our quality of life is compromised.
But what do we do about it?
Is this one of the goals of IV?
But what do we do about it?
Is this one of the goals of IV?
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cagedcactus
10-16 03:10 PM
It is very crucial for the members from Michigan to participate in the meeting. It is also recomended, that we find all our friends who visit IV, or are stuck in backlog, and bring them to the meeting, or urge them to become members on IV and start posting on threads....
good deeds are contagious.... lets fire up these beacons and set michigan chapter flamming.......
good deeds are contagious.... lets fire up these beacons and set michigan chapter flamming.......
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DSLStart
09-12 10:37 AM
Not from last nights interview, but in primaries season during Politico's live interview on CNN Obama said this about legal immigration:
"It is important that we fix the legal immigration system, because right now we've got a backlog that means years for people to apply legally. What's worse is, we keep on increasing the fees, so that if you've got a hard working immigrant family, they've got to hire a lawyer; they've got to pay thousands of dollars in fees. They just can't afford it. It's discriminatory against people who have good character, but don't have the money. We've got to fix that. "
"It is important that we fix the legal immigration system, because right now we've got a backlog that means years for people to apply legally. What's worse is, we keep on increasing the fees, so that if you've got a hard working immigrant family, they've got to hire a lawyer; they've got to pay thousands of dollars in fees. They just can't afford it. It's discriminatory against people who have good character, but don't have the money. We've got to fix that. "
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needhelp!
02-21 04:07 PM
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I mailed 21 letters ;)
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desi3933
03-21 07:24 PM
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If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
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You are right. .. New H1B and Transferred H1B are same
I also mentioned this in a past post of this thread (Page 5) as well
Typically, H-1B transfer means new H-1B petition for the beneficiary who is/was in H-1B status and is not subject to H-1 cap.
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If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
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You are right. .. New H1B and Transferred H1B are same
I also mentioned this in a past post of this thread (Page 5) as well
Typically, H-1B transfer means new H-1B petition for the beneficiary who is/was in H-1B status and is not subject to H-1 cap.
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BharatPremi
07-05 11:01 AM
This is pathetic and hysterical at the same time. I cannot believe this. :D
After giving all b..t answers she was asking me Do you need any other help sir? And I was like.. Ya... Just b..t down and I will show you what USCIS just did on July 2nd to us. We still can not sit properly :)
After giving all b..t answers she was asking me Do you need any other help sir? And I was like.. Ya... Just b..t down and I will show you what USCIS just did on July 2nd to us. We still can not sit properly :)
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go_gc_way
07-17 11:28 PM
Depends on the situation one is in .. May be they wont leave seeing this bulliten but may be forced to go back after a few more ..
What I dont understand is , is it really the case , all labours being approved in back log centers are really being used for original applicants .. I think very less percentage of them exist in those companys for so many years. If they do they should get VISAS.. but I doubt.
What happend to recently proposed to remove labour substitution? Does any one know.
When it was being floated , I knew it will help real applicants like us in the que, but not sure if it became an approved rule.
We should also ask for it storngly more than ever. I do not think there are so many number of people waiting in the que for so many years.
What do others think about this.
What I dont understand is , is it really the case , all labours being approved in back log centers are really being used for original applicants .. I think very less percentage of them exist in those companys for so many years. If they do they should get VISAS.. but I doubt.
What happend to recently proposed to remove labour substitution? Does any one know.
When it was being floated , I knew it will help real applicants like us in the que, but not sure if it became an approved rule.
We should also ask for it storngly more than ever. I do not think there are so many number of people waiting in the que for so many years.
What do others think about this.
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SOA
07-19 02:13 PM
Thank you for sharing this info.
I filed my I140 on July 17, and it was delivered on July 18.
Would this be included in that group you mentioned that will be given receipt numbers by August 1?
Thanks...
I filed my I140 on July 17, and it was delivered on July 18.
Would this be included in that group you mentioned that will be given receipt numbers by August 1?
Thanks...
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dixie
09-28 01:06 AM
We do not have sufficient expertise to answer such specific queries .. Your company's immigration lawyer should be the best person to answer this. You could also try posing your query to an attorney during our conference calls.
In any case, a good employer would prepare for the worst case eventuality - that is assume that an audit notice is sent. If your company and its lawyer have been scrupulous about all the information they furnished during the PERM app there should be little trouble responding to it. In case they fail to satisfy USCIS, your company will get blacklisted and will be barred from filing PERM applications for some length of time (not sure what that is).I do not know of any direct consequences for the beneficiary himself.
My company went through a 10% workforce reduction company-wide just when my PERM application was ready to be filed. Although nobody from my group has been affected, 2 people with the same job title from a different group in the same office were affected. Their job descriptions are entirely different. I have about a year and a half before my H1B expires. I would appreciate anybody answering the following questions I have:
1. In Form 9089, should the answer to Item 26 be 'No' since nobody in my group or area of expertise was affected?
2. If the answer to Item 26 should be 'Yes', is it sufficient to notify and consider the people laid off? I am confident that they will not qualify for the position. How long should this 'notification and interview' period typically be?
3. I have heard that my company can be sent an audit notice. In such a case, is it sufficent to justify that the area of expertise is different. What is the success rate for this?
4. If the audit response is rejected, what happens then? I have been told that the employee will have to return to his home country immediately and cannot refile his PERM application.
In any case, a good employer would prepare for the worst case eventuality - that is assume that an audit notice is sent. If your company and its lawyer have been scrupulous about all the information they furnished during the PERM app there should be little trouble responding to it. In case they fail to satisfy USCIS, your company will get blacklisted and will be barred from filing PERM applications for some length of time (not sure what that is).I do not know of any direct consequences for the beneficiary himself.
My company went through a 10% workforce reduction company-wide just when my PERM application was ready to be filed. Although nobody from my group has been affected, 2 people with the same job title from a different group in the same office were affected. Their job descriptions are entirely different. I have about a year and a half before my H1B expires. I would appreciate anybody answering the following questions I have:
1. In Form 9089, should the answer to Item 26 be 'No' since nobody in my group or area of expertise was affected?
2. If the answer to Item 26 should be 'Yes', is it sufficient to notify and consider the people laid off? I am confident that they will not qualify for the position. How long should this 'notification and interview' period typically be?
3. I have heard that my company can be sent an audit notice. In such a case, is it sufficent to justify that the area of expertise is different. What is the success rate for this?
4. If the audit response is rejected, what happens then? I have been told that the employee will have to return to his home country immediately and cannot refile his PERM application.
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logiclife
02-13 12:57 AM
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Microsoft has not been able to achieve raise in H1 quota in last 3 years ever since it has become stuck at 65,000. Maybe Bill Gates should fire his entire lobbying staff in DC. Change of leadership. US chamber of commerce could not get CIR done last year. Maybe its time for change of leadership in US chamber of commerce too. Technet and CompeteAmerica, after spending 10 times more than IV could not even get the smallest version of SKIL bill passed even though they tried and assured something will happen in lame duck session. Maybe they should be fired by their employers. Unitedfamiles could not get family based immigration reform. They should be fired too.
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Microsoft has not been able to achieve raise in H1 quota in last 3 years ever since it has become stuck at 65,000. Maybe Bill Gates should fire his entire lobbying staff in DC. Change of leadership. US chamber of commerce could not get CIR done last year. Maybe its time for change of leadership in US chamber of commerce too. Technet and CompeteAmerica, after spending 10 times more than IV could not even get the smallest version of SKIL bill passed even though they tried and assured something will happen in lame duck session. Maybe they should be fired by their employers. Unitedfamiles could not get family based immigration reform. They should be fired too.
hopefulgc
03-05 10:30 AM
1) Asking for money to issue a report under FOIA cannot be justified. If the data is public, it is USCIS's job to bring it to us.
2) It is certain that we would be able to get USCIS to waive the $5k fee... but it would take time.
3) If we pay up and they make the program... we need a way so that we can request the reports at regular intervals... after all once the report is prepared, it is available and we should be able to make use of it.
4) A better idea might be to pay the $5k, but instead ask them to make an API.. to which one can we can supply the boundary priority dates using a RESTful service. If we are gonna give money.. we better get the restrained control in our hands. This will help future applicants.
2) It is certain that we would be able to get USCIS to waive the $5k fee... but it would take time.
3) If we pay up and they make the program... we need a way so that we can request the reports at regular intervals... after all once the report is prepared, it is available and we should be able to make use of it.
4) A better idea might be to pay the $5k, but instead ask them to make an API.. to which one can we can supply the boundary priority dates using a RESTful service. If we are gonna give money.. we better get the restrained control in our hands. This will help future applicants.
NolaIndian32
04-30 11:03 AM
Just contibuted another $100, Receipt Number: 1735-7394-6342-4534
Thanks Amit_sp.
Lets get this number to $10,000 by today.
When we reach $9,900 - I will make a $100 contribution to get us to $10,000!!
Lets go IV!!!
Thanks Amit_sp.
Lets get this number to $10,000 by today.
When we reach $9,900 - I will make a $100 contribution to get us to $10,000!!
Lets go IV!!!
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